people that are up on the stage are like five seconds ahead of the people that are just listening. Oh hmm okay. You know if you're bringing people up one at a time like you are that you're going to get that. My question to you is you said something that rang very true with me. A 2020 election was non-transparent by force and you know therefore it was illegitimate. I was wondering if you might expand on that a bit so that other people can understand it because I think that very simple thing proves quite a bit right there.

Well by non-transparent by force I think you're referring to one situation where Republican observers were denied access. There were multiple but yes. Yeah well you know that allows you to doubt the election. So I don't care what anybody tells you did or did not happen. If you have a right to watch and they tell you you can't you should draw exactly the conclusion from that that an informed person should. That there's something going on because if there wasn't anything going on well maybe they'd let you see.

Now the counter to that is that they're just worried that the observers would be troublemakers and they were just trying to make their life easier. Maybe. That's entirely possible. But you can't have that situation and also have confidence. You can have irregularities and then no confidence but you can't have irregularities and then confidence. You gotta pick. So if you're gonna go with irregularities don't ask for the confidence in the result. We can't give you that. That's logically incompatible.

So I don't have any evidence that the election was rigged. Zero evidence of that that I'm aware of. There are lots of claims but if you were to track all of the claims from the beginning of the election denial claims they're almost all wrong. Now will there be some that pan out? I don't know. Maybe. Anything's possible. But like I always say the big picture is this. If you have a system that is not fully auditable and people have a really big incentive to game the system they will. Yeah maybe not 2020 but eventually you know there's no way you can avoid it. So we have a system that attracts and guarantees rigging. I would say it guarantees it. It's designed to attract it and guarantee it in the long run. If it were designed to avoid it it would be designed very differently I imagine. So that's what I think.

All right thanks Chris. All right let's bring up Christopher Hill. So it'll be a little five second delay or so. All right Christopher if you unmute you can talk. Skill stack regarding communication persuasion skills and that clearly had a lot to do with him rising above the pack and getting into the White House. So I guess the question is this. As you look at 2024 how much of an impact will that persuasion skill stack take or do you think that there are other aspects of his skills that may make it different to 24? Is it just a completely different environment?

Well the big question that's being asked on the right is whether the elections are designed so that the Republican could ever win. And I don't know the answer to that. I don't know. It could be that between the legal manipulations and the ballot stuffing that persuasion just doesn't matter anymore. It could be just who's running the better game on the ground. So it might be that it doesn't matter. The thing that was different about Trump is that he was bringing a new weapon into the field that nobody recognized. But you know I could see it early. So that was a very special case. It's not some kind of thing where I could always guess who the next president is going to be. That was just a one-off. I just had a special sort of a special vision on a specific variable that was gigantic and was invisible to other people.

So I would think that the first thing that's happening is that with the little primary action going on in the Republican side that the best ideas are starting to be grabbed by all the candidates. So you saw that I think most of the candidates said they would get tough with the military with the cartels. It's because when Trump said it everybody s