I was thinking, trying to think of ways to counter hoax five. So hoax five, for those of you just joining us, is the idea that the orange man causes racism, not the fake news and the way they cover it. And this was the fifth of the major hoaxes. It's like chapter five. If this were a chapter book this would be chapter five, the other hoaxes. So here's a way to, I was thinking of reframing the whole racism thing. Imagine if Trump supporters had a t-shirt that said "Nationalism versus racism." Now smart people will say wait a minute, those are not like opposites because a racist could be a nationalist, could be a non-nationalist. You know, those, it doesn't make sense to say nationalism versus racism. It's sort of like saying banana versus the color purple. Like banana and the color don't compare. Doesn't make any sense.

But we live in a stupid world in which people think in terms of words. It's the main power of Antifa is their name. If they changed their name they would have to go away tomorrow because if it wasn't anti-fascist they would just be fascists. It's literally the name of the organization. It's the only reason they get away with what they do because we're so dumb as a society that the word influences us. Anti, oh well I guess I must be on your team. You're anti something, I'm in too.

So I was thinking if it were framed as nationalism versus racism, that's not so bad because you can't really be a good nationalist if you're also a racist, seems to me. Because the whole point of nationalism is that you're protecting your team, the people in your nation. How could you be a nationalist and a racist? You could be a white nationalist but bad news, it's way too late. How in the world, what are you going to do? You know, back 45 percent of the country to wherever you imagine they belong. How would that even work? So nationalism, without the white, versus racism. Yeah, it's not patriotism versus racism because there are patriots on both sides. But I think people would agree that the nationalists are all on one side and nationalism by its nature is anti-racism. Am I wrong?

I'm not talking about white nationalism. I'll talk about just nationalism. Nationalism by its nature is to protect the people in the border, the people who are already here, and there are all kinds of people. So how could you say protect all these different kinds of diverse people and be a racist? Doesn't make sense. They're opposites. So that's why the anti-Trumpers have to throw the white in there to make it white nationalist so that they can turn it into white supremacist so they can turn it into Hitler. So they have to use word association to turn nationalists into something bad.

So I'm just putting that in there. Nationalism versus racism. If we started thinking of it that way then you'd have to take teams. I was actually thinking, this is not a serious suggestion but it just gives you an idea of how important words are. If Trump supporters founded a group called anti-racists but they were there mostly nationalists but they called the group anti-racist, who would oppose them? Because if you oppose the group that's anti-racist, what are you? Right? So if there were a Republican group named anti-racist it would be very effective. I don't see it happening and I'm not suggesting it will, but it just tells you how the words work.

Anti-rac. Anti-raw. Anti-raw to be against Antifa. Now it seems to me that the Antifa are racists by definition because their view of the world is race and filtering. If the way you see the world is race, that's your primary filter, I think you're racist by definition because it's how you see the world. If your primary definition of the world is America or nationalism, you're the opposite because you can't really be a good American. You can't really, I don't know how you could support the Constitution or what it says very clearly, we're all equal, if you don't believe that. So in order to be a nationalist and a patriot and a good American you would have to not be a racist. So just put that out there.

All right, Antirac versus Antifa then. My word, Antirac is pretty good. You should reread the Constitution. Should I? What am I going to miss? You know, I'm seeing a pushback when people, I saw some people say that the United States and the founders founded the United States on a white supremacist basis. What do you say to that? Do you think it's true or false that the United States, the founders, the fathers of the country, because most of them were men, do you think that it was a white supremacist nation?

Now most of you are calling bull. No, no, no. Hey. So I'm reading this book "American Nations" which is just history. It's not really trying to push an agenda. It's just telling you what happened. If you read the history it looks like, well not exactly white supremacists. It was wealthy supremacists. So the founders did believe, both north and south, there's some people were special and it had a lot to do, more to do with your money and your status than it did with anything else.

So the thing that we often forget is that the founders of the country, and I don't mean the ones who signed the Constitution but the early important people in the country in the colonies, enslaved white people and black. If you're an indentured servant and you were white, you're basically a slave. You know, the actual African slaves had it worse but the white people were slaves too. So we were a slave country. It's just that everybody was a slave and the rich people had everything and they built a constitution that said hey, how about rich people get to keep everything including their slaves. That's sort of what they did. The Constitution was really about the rich people getting to keep their stuff.

So you can love this country and be a patriot and all that but you don't have to run from the history. The history is a bunch of white supremacists but the most dominant part of their thinking, beyond the fact that they were white supremacists, the dominant part of their thinking was money and special people. But the special people were anybody rich. So I would say true to the claim that the United States was founded on a white supremacist philosophy. Not true that it still is. It's perfectly fine to say things used to be bad but they got better.

So I'm going to say true to the country being a white supremacist platform that improved over time. And I would say that the Trump form of nationalism takes it to right where it needs to be. Nationalism is anti-rac. Right? Hashtag anti-rac. Because they're anti-racist.