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Back to episode — Episode 2440 CWSA 04/10/24

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get just stayed flat but you were inflating away the debt — well, you'd be inflating away your budget as well as your debt, but you would also maybe not be adding so much. So the math of it is actually confusing. It's not straightforward at all. So probably I'm just going to give you my eyeball sense of things, just a sense of it. Probably something like every part of the budget has to be cut by 1…

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erts said.

Can you name anything on that list that the experts said that wasn't obvious to you? Is there even one thing that they said that you didn't already know? It's crazy. These are our experts. They've got nothing for us. Nothing.

Yeah, and they left out food. So basically the non-expert who said in the comments, "What about food?" gave a better answer than the experts. If you leave food out of this equation, what kind of expert are you? Food is like right in the top five, you know. It might be top one. We don't know.

I mean, I think social media is number one, or phones in general. Pandemic's probably number two. But food has got to be right up there. I mean, every indication is that your mental health is directly related to your diet. More on that later.

Well, apparently there's an effort to figure out who the big persuaders are in the social media landscape. Now you probably know, if you listen to me, that Mike Benz has reported how the intelligence people and their foreign entities, non-governmental entities, figured out some kind of big censorship map where they could figure out who's connected to who. So they could figure out if somebody like, say, Alex Jones is saying something, they can map where that message is going to go and then from there where it would go. So it's sort of a multi-map of how messaging works on the internet.

The idea was that they would use it for censorship. So they would know who is having the biggest impact, and then they would just say, well, conveniently we think that's not true, so we'd better censor you. And then they could do it very well because they know exactly what nodes to turn off and on. But that would be looking primarily at numbers. So that method says, oh, this is a big account connected to lots of people. So they map that out and it looks like that path of influence is the big one because it goes through larger accounts.

However, this newer technique is looking at the personalities of the individuals, getting down to really understanding people, given data that we know about people. And I think it's looking for the super spreaders or the people who are the most persuasive. So independent of how many followers they have, people have different batting averages. In other words, some people will bat much higher than their user count. So this new way would pick that up.

Does that sound familiar? Has anybody read a book that I may have written in which it predicted that someday in the future — this book written in 2003, I think — predicted that just about now the government would have figured out how to find the prime influencer?

Now in the book, which is fiction, it's called "The Religion War." It's canceled, but it's coming back this summer. It's going to be reintroduced as part of a "God's Debris" trilogy. The trilogy is really 2.1 books because there's a short story that's new that makes it three entities. We're putting them together and reissuing because "The Religion War" and "God's Debris" were both culled, but they're coming back. Can't be stopped anyway.

And one of the key, really one of the most important parts of "The Religion War" is the prediction that we would be able to do exactly this: find out who were the persuaders without maybe even those people knowing it.

Now here's my theory. In the real world I suspect that some things start in multiple places at the same time. Do you ever see a news story and your first thought about it is, oh, this is the frame I'll put it in, or this is the way I'll understand it? Then you find out everybody else is doing the same thing. So there's some things that we all just sort of see at the same time. That's different.

But there are other things that I'm completely convinced start with one person. Actually literally one person out of the billions of human beings. That one person puts it into a certain way, maybe it influences a bigger account, and then it goes from there. Now I don't think it's the same one person who influences every decision, but I've got this feeling that literally one person is a common way that memes and narratives form. Literally one person.

Now do you think that there are, say, a handful of people in the world who are more responsible for the narratives than you could imagine? And maybe they're not even famous. They might even be behind the scenes. But do you think that that's viable or a possibility? That there are a handful of people who are not just world leaders and have power and money but have specific skill to change the world through persuasion. Do you think that's a thing in the real world?

Well, if you don't, good. Because that's how persuaders hide in plain sight. Because you don't believe it's possible. One of the things about being a hypnotist is you can literally tell people what you're doing and it doesn't make any difference. It has no impact on your effectiveness. You can say, "I am now hypnotizing you," and people will say, "Uh-huh, yep. Oh look at me, I'm so hypnotized. Go ahead, Mr. Hypnotist, try your best. Oh, I'm so hypnotized." And then they're hypnotized anyway.

So fiction predicts reality once again. We're going to look for the prime influencers. Does that worry you that somebody will make a map of the prime influencers? It should. Because the prime influencers who are undetected are the only ones giving you any freedom right now. It's the only counterforce. Because the government has the power to basically clamp down on everything. The only thing they can't clamp down on is... fill in the blank. What's the one thing that a government can't clamp down on? Something you can't find. If it can't find it, it's helpless. And right now it can't find it.

Don't you think that the reason they're trying to find the prime influencers is because they don't know who they are? They wouldn't be looking for them if they knew who they were. They actually can't figure out who's influencing. But if they find us — I mean people — then it's going to be a whole different game. And the people who are influential are probably going to go to jail on trumped-up charges, probably, because they're going to have to take them off the field, Alex Jones style. We'll talk about that.

Well, there's a new survey that says that climate change is only the most important thing to 2% of the people. Only 2% see Biden's green agenda as the top issue, while a quarter of the people see the border as the top concern.

Well, I'm not going to make fun of the fact that 25% think the border is the top concern because it's a survey with lots of different choices, and that just happened to be the biggest one. So let me think. Could it be possible that there's such a thing as a prime influencer, like one person, literally one person, who could change the entire narrative from climate change being the existential threat to really maybe that's not so much of a threat, but migration is a key threat? Who would be a prime influ

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encer on that? Trump. Now you, Elon Musk. You know, he's certainly a big part of things now. But Elon is not anti-climate crisis. I think he's just a reasonable voice in that sphere. I would say this is Trump. This looks like one person. This poll looks like the effect of one insanely persuasive person, Trump mostly. Now you would say to yourself, but Scott, what about all the other people who al…

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