o work with Ye? Do you think that Fuentes' audience is like really happy that he's supporting a Black guy for president? I don't know. I'm kind of curious about that. But what is it that brought them together?

Now some of you might say, well you know famous people and they both hate Jews is what you're going to say, right? Somebody's saying that. Maybe. Maybe. But when they talk about it they talk about making the country a Christian country. And I think that at least one day said and maybe Ye believes this, I don't know, that you shouldn't be running for office unless you're a Christian. And that they'd like to see even the Constitution maybe tweaked to say that office holders need to be Christians. Now I'm sorry, that's not the country I live in. I'm completely okay with our system being informed by Christians and formed by Christianity. That seems to have worked, right? It works more than it doesn't work. But as soon as you say that, like that Scott can't run for office in the country he lives in. No. Yeah, you can't be my president. I'm sorry. You cannot be my president if your platform is I can't run for office because I don't believe in your version of religion. No, no. That is completely disqualifying.

But you know what I love? I love the fact that they're sort of cheerful warriors and the fact that they're fighting for this thing and they're making their argument in a free market of ideas. And it's interesting. I find it interesting. I'm never going to agree with it but I like being exposed to the thought process, etc. I like taking my mind someplace it wasn't before. I never really thought about that.

Now I believe also that Ye said during this interview that he thinks the Jews should forgive Hitler. Now that's something you didn't say in public but you said it to somebody who's obviously going to write about it. But the Jews should forgive Hitler. Now that's pretty provocative but it also perfectly captures his philosophy. His philosophy I believe is that if he were a Jew he would forgive Hitler because forgiving is built into everything. Everything he's about. Now that's interesting, isn't it? Because that frames it a little differently, doesn't it?

Imagine the argument was it started out with Ye complimented Hitler, right? He didn't compliment the Holocaust. He said he liked some things about Hitler like building roads and stuff. It was sort of a funny argument. But did he say Hitler is overall good? No, of course not. Forgiveness is not about the person being worthy of the forgiveness. It's about you. It's about the forgiver. But now I suppose Ye takes his argument all the way from Hitler had some good points all the way to the Jews should forgive Hitler. Do you see what that does to your brain? Do you see what that does? This is like Overton window just perfectly used. It's hard to go back to your last opinion because the new one's just more interesting, right? As soon as he says the Jews should forgive Hitler you're like, okay I cannot not think about that. And I already completely have forgotten what you said about Hitler's good points because now you've gone so much further that now we have to think about this. And then you think about and you say, oh wait a minute, that's just a Christian principle. And then all of a sudden you're like, what the hell is Ye doing to us? It's just a Christian principle. Yeah, yeah. It's an attempt at a high road, right? Because what... I don't know that he thinks it's a practical thing but as a philosophical point it gets you past the controversial stuff and onto something that's actually an interesting question no matter where you are on it.

Now here's another thing that I don't know if you caught and he said it fairly clearly to this reporter, well to Shane. What do you think Ye's opinion of Jewish people is based on what he said? Based on what he said, what would you say his opinion is of Jewish people? Go, give me your summary of Ye's opinion of Jewish people based on what he said. You say negative but give me the example. What's the negative thing you said specifically? Well you said he loves them and he is one. Okay he said that he was going to go death con on the Jews, right? So he said he was going to be aggressive against the Jews. What's happening?

So here's what happens when you see his context. So when he talks about the Jewish community it's all compliments and that was always the context. The context is that the Jewish community is — he actually says it directly — smarter than average, more successful, and that he would like to emulate some of their methods because he keeps running into successful Jewish people who are powerful enough that he's not getting what he wants out of his interactions. So he would like to be more like them. Pretty specifically saying that you would like to learn from what they do and be more their equal in business. Is that terrible? Is that terrible that he sees them as above his current ability and also ability of other people and he would like to rise to that level so that he's an equal force in the marketplace? As I see it. Am I spinning? I'm telling you what he said. Is that spinning? I don't know.

No he said death con, right? What he meant was Defcon. But what he meant was he was sort of going to war against what he called the Jews. But what did he mean? His detailed explanation is all compliments. Is there such a thing as a racist who believes that a group is better than his own people? Is that a thing? Can you be an anti-Semite by saying that Jewish people are superior to you and maybe other people as well? Because that's what he says. I mean he says it very directly. He's not even beating around the bush. They're more successful. They're smarter. They're killing it in business. I keep bumping into them and not getting what I want. I need to raise my power level up to their level. Maybe I can learn something from them. And I'm going to go hard at this. I'm going to be fighting, as he would say, fighting the Jews.

And then the corollary argument is, can he as a free person in the United States speak sloppily about his own personal opinion? Because I think it's sloppy to say the Jews. Would you agree? That's just sloppy. But does he have the right to be sloppy? He wasn't trying to hurt anybody. And language does have a risk no matter what you're saying. It just seems to always have a risk. I don't know. It's an interesting question. I think he has a right to be sloppy and you have a right to react to that sloppiness in a negative way. I don't see a big problem.

Yeah, because the thing is that he also consistently speaks of Black people and other people the same way. He uses the same level of sloppiness to talk about everything basically. Everything is the white people matter. Like I said, he talks about groups like they're all one thing. Now should he? I don't know. I don't have an opinion on that. But if you think that he's insulting a group because he speaks to them as a whole, that doesn't hold up because he speaks of every group including his own as a whole. It's simply the way he talks. And if you said well but he's also insulting them, that's different. You can speak about your own group as a whole if you're not insulting them. But don't talk about somebody else's group and then insult them. But he didn't. He complimented them. I don't know.

Now if I were Jewish would I be saying what I'm saying now? Do you think I would have this view of things if I were Jewish? No way. No way. No. You know what I would feel if I were Jewish? That guy. Hard him for putting me in at a greater risk. Him for making me think about the Holocaust one more time. You know, him for saying he likes Hitler. Him. Completely. If I were Jewish. All right. So but why do I have empathy for my beloved fellow Jewish citizens? Why do I have so much empathy for how they should feel in that situation? Because I would feel exactly the same way. But why don't we extend that to Ye who's had a bunch of individuals he's had a hard time with and he's just sort of generalizing them because he's speaking sloppy? Why don't we understand why he is also in an emotionally irrational situation? Because something that would trigger anybody into an irrational mode happened to him.

So the same way I say if I were Jewish I would be reacting essentially from my emotional defense. Protect myself. You know any movement in the wrong direction has to be stopped immediately. I would act exactly like that. Of course you would too, right? But if I were Ye I would also probably be affected the same way he was, right? If I ran into one demographic group that kept being my obstacle I'd probably have a bad attitude about them. And I allow that people should be able to have that attitude. I don't want to agree with it. I don't always want to see it. Right? Maybe you should keep it to yourself. But can we really blame people for having... let's say you've been married three times and you're either male or female, doesn't matter in my example. And all three times it was just terrible. You don't think you'd have a bad feeling about either men if you're a woman or women if you're a man? I do. And I would allow you to have that opinion. I would not criticize you for saying all men are or all women are terrible. I would say that is exactly what you should be feeling because you've had that experience. I'm not adopting it. I'm not going to be influenced by it. But I get it. I allow you to have that opinion.

So I allow that the Jews should treat Ye unfairly and I'm fine with that because I would do the same thing. You put me in that situation and I would not be looking for fairness. I'd be looking to stop that completely, right? But Ye was allegedly a victim of some business and other personal situations that seemed to present a pattern to him. Nobody including Ye thinks that pattern holds to all Jewish people. Would you agree with that? Do you think that Ye would say oh yes I do believe that all Jewish people act the same and are the same? Of course not. So the thing that you assume that he's saying, nobody would say. He didn't say it. Nobody says it. Not a single person on Earth thinks it. It's a ridiculous way to frame him.

So once you realize he's not trying to make anybody like him at the moment — he has insulted everybody. He's called everybody by their category at least once — it looks different.

All right. Here are the people who should be kicked off of social media. Here's the comment. Scott is more ridiculous every day. You. Your stupid little comment. Here's the thing. If you've got a problem with what I say you've got plenty of time to say it. If you want to just say something about me, I hate your little piece of existence. Really? Let's go. Go kill yourself.

All right. So we'll see if Ye can turn this ship. The Shane when he wrote about him still believes that Ye would be a good president. So the individual I was just talking about who was talking to Ye believed before and still does that he might be a good president. What do you think? Oh and by the way Ye said he would run as a Republican because he doesn't think independent can win. Too unstable for the nuclear football. I don't think so. I don't think Ye is too unstable for the nuclear football. Well you think he's gonna launch? I don't. Aardvark. Thank you for that.

So I'm finishing up my book on reframes and I was just doing like an author's reread yesterday where I read it like I'm a consumer for the first time. And I have to tell you it's the best thing I've done. I think it's going to change the world. Like here's what it does. It takes all the most persuasive little reframes and puts them in one place. So if you've got any problems from personal to business to understanding reality itself, there's probably more than one reframe that's very powerful that you haven't been exposed to yet. And the power of these reframes — so far I think I have over 130 of them in the book — you're going to find at least 10 that will rock your world. It might be a different 10 from somebody else's 10 because it's based on what you need in your life. But they are so strong when you see them all together. This will be the best thing I've ever done in terms of usefulness to other people. In terms of usefulness to other people this will be unparalleled. Nothing will be close.

Yeah, I stopped. I'm not going to say it's a masterpiece. That's a different connotation. I'm going to say useful. It's going to be the most useful thing that's ever been produced I think. Like actually might actually be the most useful. Yeah, outside of maybe the Bible or something if you want to go that way. But yeah, there's nothing I've created that would be this level of direct benefit to your life. Just read it if you want to understand what neuro-linguistic programming does to you. Well I already understand that. It's like a book of spells. Yeah that's exactly what it is, huh?

So another story I forgot. There was that I saw AI was asked to do some hypnosis and it couldn't do it. I mean it tried but it didn't know the technique. It just did you know you're getting sleepy kind of stuff which is not really the technique. So AI doesn't know how to do hypnosis. You don't want to be alive when it does if it ever learns to do hypnosis. And presumably it could. I mean I could train it in an afternoon. You're in trouble. I mean we don't know what this AI is going to do to us but I can tell you every prediction about the future is useless. Everything will change. Do you all get that, right? I think a lot of people still have a view of AI this could be a wonky little me-too thing that's playing while we go on with our lives as normal. Your life will not be recognizable in five years. Civilization won't even be recognizable. Everything will be different. Everything. Yeah it's beyond imagine. It's literally beyond ima