something so he's a lot closer to having a STEM-like mind frame than I do. But we're not really scientists in this field. Why the hell would you want to see him talk to me? What possible good could that do?

Let me tell you how that conversation goes. Look at my study. Look at it. Look at my study that says whatever, masks don't work or whatever it is. And then I'll say all right, where do I take that? Do I look at the study and with my non-scientific knowledge I say well based on my non-scientific knowledge the person who does have scientific knowledge is all wrong. What the hell good would that do? Like I would know what I'm talking about? Now suppose Ivor comes on, says look at my data, comes from this good source. Do you think that I couldn't find a piece of paper to hold in my hand that says the opposite of what his piece of paper says? You know I could. You know I could. Do you think I could Google in one minute a whole bunch of sources that say masks work? Of course I could. Do you think I could Google sources that say masks don't work? Of course I could. How do I know the difference? How do I know?

So everybody who's asking me to talk to Ivor, you don't understand what that would do. What that would do would elevate his opinion to a greater level of worthiness because it was being discussed in an organized way. Should his opinion be elevated? No more than mine. And mine shouldn't be elevated because again, not a scientist. Now I do make opinions on the science all the time because I'm pro-mask for example. But my decision is not always based on science. My decision is based on risk management. And risk management will sometimes make a different decision than science will. So if he wants to talk risk management with me I could talk that all day long. That's something I could speak to with some authority. But j